Gender, Stereotyping and Ranking

Submitted by hnw5000 on May 24, 2006 - 8:05am.
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Notions of masculinity and femininity become well established throughout a persons young life, when s/he begins to associate things like strength and ability with men and emotional and dependent with women. WVFV discusses masculinity and femininity. It also touches on the difficultly of buying a child gender neutral gifts and raising a child without a bias towards either gender in “X: A Fabulous Child’s Story.”

Where do these stereotypes come from and what are some of the affects? Do you think schools play a role in gender stereotyping? Will teachers ever be required to take courses on gender equity before they graduate? Will there ever be a time when a boy can be on the cheer leading team without being ridiculed or when a girl can play lacrosse without people questioning her sexuality? Strides have been made, but is it enough? What more needs to be done?

In BUST and WVFV, gender ranking in society were also discussed. BUST gave examples of specific women’s experiences dealing with there gender. Where do you think the ideas that masculinity is superior to femininity came from and how are those ideas enforced? How does the media encourage gender ranking? What roles do women usually play in television shows? What about men? In the past few years, companies are trying to create more ads that target women, even during the Super Bowl. Why do you think this has only happened recently?

Schools absolutely play a

#622 On May 30, 2006 5:06pm vogueitgirl said,
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Schools absolutely play a role in gender ranking. Starting from a young age, children are taught to act a particular way because "boys don't cry" and "little girls must be dainty and clean." I remember my second grade class that I worked with for my high school senior project. During recess time the children would disperse and play amongst their group of friends. A particular incident lingers in my mind. A girl wanted to play a game of "war" with the rest of the boys who were playing and shooting invisible guns at each other around the swings. However she was prevented from joining the escapade because one boy made a remark like "you can't play war because you're a girl and you would die right away." A group of girls standing nearby mocked her and asked her why she couldn't be normal and play jacks for once. It is ridiculous how children are teaching each other how they should fit a certain gender stereotype.

Throughout middle and high school I have encountered teachers who were sexist, racist, supremist, you mention it. These are the individuals who either enhance your educational mentality, or deteriorate it with personal knacks and opinions that were if only taught a thing or two about gender equity. I hope that in the future teachers will be required to take courses on gender and social equity. It is important to make veryone feel included and welcomed.

The case of Baby X can only be accomplished in the most objective of all environments. Throughout the story I wondered when Baby X would turn and give into the peer pressure. We as people are naturally so concerned with what our peers think, that it is virtually impossible to be pleased with who we are like Baby X. Strides are being made, but it will take more than just a few years to allow such objectivity to prevail, if so ever.

Gender, Stereotyping, and Ranking

#574 On May 26, 2006 4:58pm brianna546 said,
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As we all read in WVFV stereotypes come from our society. They are rules we have made that define the way men and women are aloud to act in our culture. For women those rules have changed; we now can be "superwomen" and work with men while still having the same feminine qualities society expects from us too. However, for men I think its harder. If a man wants to act more like a woman, society looks down on him in most cases. He will be ridiculed and many people will question his sexuality. Of course schools play a role in gender stereo typing. Boys' belonging's are color coded to be blue and girls' are pink. Children are separated into lines according to gender. There is a place for girls' toys and boys' toys. Children learn gender from a very young age especially in school. Eventually, I believe steps will be taken to change the way schools teach children gender, but only in certain ways. I think someday it will be ok for a woman to play lacrosse without her gender being questioned and for men to be cheerleaders. However, basic ideals that society have about men and women will always stay. Most men will always be stronger than women its a scientific fact. We may change minds about people thinking men are superior to women because of that fact. However, I just think some things will never change. Personally, as a woman I don't want some of those things to change. I like the fact that I have a big strong man to protect me and take care of things for me.

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#569 On May 26, 2006 3:41pm Tito said,
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I think the stereotypes were brought upon us by ourselves. We as a people just starting choosing blue for boys and pink for girls, and things of that nature. Some affects of it are that from birth kids are taught that they have to be the perfect ideal "boy" or "girl." Schools definately play a role in the gender game because I know when I was in grade school, we always had a boy's line and a girl's line. Girls got to get their coats before we did, and things like that. I don't think teachers will ever be required to take gender equality courses, but it could happen. I also do not think that there will be a time where boys can be on the cheer-leadign team and not get made fun of, at least not in my lifetime. I think the idea that masculinity is superior to feminity came from history, where the man would go work and the woman would just have babies and take care of the house. Times have changed though, and we have to realize that women are just as capable if not more capable, to do the things we do. I think that the roles that women and men play on TV shows is starting to even out. It's not completely equal but now there are alot mroe star roles played by women. More ads have been targeted towards women because maybe society is starting to realize that women are equal to me.....Maybe...

stereotypes and school

#565 On May 26, 2006 3:01pm nikki2318 said,
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First off, possibly way off topic, i just want to say that I don't know how I feel about this Baby X and what it's parents did to it. This child had no name basically replied as I am X and that wast X was called. Why not give X a name that can be associated as male of female such as Kelly or Ashley? On the other hand, this child got to experience more than any of us will ever have a chance to. It got to see both sides of the spectrum without being criticized by the other (eventually). No matter how we try we will still to an extent be held to gender roles that lots of times we don't want to fit into...but back to topic.

Stereotypes come from our ideology that things have to be a certain way, that males act on way and females another. Even writing this blog the word male is easier to write first in a sentence than the word female because that's how its always been and feel unnatural and out of order with female coming first. Do I think schools play a part in gender stereotyping? To an extent yes, how could they not? They are run by individuals who have the same ideology built into their being as we. I would however say that more and more girls are being recognized for their abilities in schools but the stereotyping is still there. I think we have come a ways from these stereotypes although they exist with judging sexuality as suggested in the blog a boy who cheers or a girl who plays lacrosse but more and more men are cheering and girls are becoming strong atheletes some stronger than their male counterpart. Changes still need to be made in our way of thinking and women need to be judged less for wanting to do something "masculine" instead of falling into the "female" roles they are supposed to. Men still have more power over females and until we are equal I don't know how much will change.

Stereotyping

#563 On May 26, 2006 2:01pm kgr0919 said,
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In today's world we as a society go with what everyone else does. Stereotypes come from us, the ones who created them. We see one thing happen on a particular person and we automatically believe that its the same for everyone else. The affect can be tremendous because if you establish these habits it can cause future tendencies. If we prejudge someone, we are putting a label on them. Labels lead to racism and other things.
The masculinity of males came from the past. Males were offered jobs that were considerd "tough" jobs and the women did not have the same opportunities. They were left to be at home and tend to needs around the house. Recently society had become more open to females allowing them to have equal opportunities as men. This is partly due to feminism and how strong it can truley be. Do you think this will continue, and will women ever be equal in our society? What will it take for this happen?

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#554 On May 26, 2006 11:18am Ahmed said,
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These stereotypes come from a long history with our socil environment. Gender is a huge issue to begin with and when brought into the publics attention many people have many different views about it. It is a very sensitive issue because many people deal with gender issues. I think that even with the strides presented it will be a long time before we can ever think of gender equality. I know we came a long way from back in the day, but there are many things that still need to be worked on. I think that we also need to have more parent teacher meetings in school and have discussions between teachers to teach people about gender inequality and how we can make it better. In the bible people say that there are instances of gender inequality and show how men are proven to be more superrior than women. Women usually play the housewive or the caregiver, she rarely has a strong role. I think that we have some how come over that a little bit because there are many roles that have been given to women that show their strngths and give them more credit for their abilities. Men play the breadwinner and the man of the house. They are seen as strong and the decision maker in the house. I think that just recently we have come to think about women more because there are more women who are out in the workforce nowadays.

gender stereotyping, etc

#552 On May 26, 2006 11:09am ilovetherain said,
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Schools definitley play a role in gender stereotyping, but I would have to say I think it is slowly fading...I'm not sure if there will ever be a time when it is totally gone, but I think it is getting less and less. Teachers should definitely be required to take a course involving gender equity, and to be honest, I find it kind of surprising if they don't already. This is an issue that we face every day in some way and I think those who are leading the children, teenagers, young adults of our society in educational means should be adequately prepared to address and deal with any situation that could arise. After all, we are to listen to our teachers and learn from them...good and bad alike is taken in and processed by the minds.

Girls play lacrosse. Girls lacrosse is steadily on the rise and is becoming "the popular sport" for girls. Girls want to play and guys dig chicks who play. I think a large part of that is the fact that girls lacrosse is played in short skirts, which still is kinda funny to me. Who ever thought running around on an athletic field, bending over to pick up ground balls, and getting knocked over would be best in an almost mini skirt is beyond me. Why skirts?! What happened to shorts?! I mean it was a conscious decision to choose skirts over the standard athletic uniform of shorts as the lacrosse uniform. Maybe it was an attempt to make it unmistakeable that this was in fact GIRLS playing. To make a statement regarding gender and sports. But, take another girls' sport, such as softball or volleyball for example. These are the sports I feel bring about questions of sexuality. I have never been able to figure out why though...it truly is a mystery to me. Does anyone have any idea?!

Boy cheerleaers...yes there might be some and I have absolutely no problems what-so-ever with that...but I do not think there will really ever be a point where a guy isn't ridiculed if he is a cheerleader. I have no real reason as to why besides the fact that I just don't think other guys will ever fully, totally, 100% think of cheerleading as something a guy should do, let alone think of it as a sport (which it technically is). Maybe I am totally off here, but I don't think so. In my experiences at sporting events, guy cheerleaders are called "fag", "loser", "queer", "douche"...pretty sad really.

gender ranking

#548 On May 26, 2006 10:17am lml1126 said,
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I think gender ranking and stereotypes are becoming obselescent due to many guys and girls incorporating "ungender like" characteristics and activities into their lives. Just the other day I saw a man getting a pedicure at my salon. I overheard him talking and he was not ashamed of being there, in fact he loved how much attention he got from the predominatly female environment. Guys get gross feet and need pampering too. Girls can prevail in a male orientented activity, as well. In my first grade class I assist in, there is this precious little girl who also happens to be a National karate Champion. I think some of the boys are a little intimidated by her. It's fun to watch.
Also, I think gender equity in schools is a big deal. Just as it mentioned in the book, schools play a big role in defining and providing confidence in gender. As an education student I did learn about gender equity in the classroom. We watched a video on different classrooms and it pointed out everytime the teacher unintentionally favored girls over boys or boys over girls depending on the subject they were learning. Although it seems unimportant, many girls are guys are permantly affected by this. Girls are "supposed" to be better at reading and writing so they get called on in those situations, diminishing the boys confidence in those areas. Boys are better at math and science, therefore girls feel they cannot compete with boys and can even reverse the math and science skills they have accquired.

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#537 On May 25, 2006 10:49pm jkf143 said,
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I believe that the typical gender stereotypes are greatly diminishing. In my high school there was a boy on the field hockey team, a girl on the football team, and a couple boy cheerleaders. The boy on my field hockey team was our best player, although this was only because he was stronger and faster than us girls. The girl on the football team did get made fun of a lot but for a lot of things, not just being on the football team. Our male cheerleaders were some of the most popular boys in our school. I think this shows how far we have come. Look at Penn State, we have many male cheerleaders, we have a woman’s lacrosse team, and even a woman’s ice hockey team. I definitely agree that there is more progress to be made, but I believe that will come with time.

I agree with the previous comment that the media has changed a lot and now has many shows that portray non typical lifestyles. Think of Will and Grace, Grey's Anatomy, and Desperate Housewives. We now have many options instead of shows where the man goes out to make the money and the woman stays like The Brady Bunch. I think that the media is now trying to create more ads that target women because now women have higher paying jobs and can afford more luxuries for themselves.

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#532 On May 25, 2006 10:12pm Karma said,
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I think there are several television shows that portray women as "wearing the pants in the family". For example, Rosanne, Everybody Loves Raymond, King of Queens and probably more. In both King of Queens and Rosanne the women are working outside of the home. Television is not like it used to be. Many more shows are displaying women having more power and lives outside the homes and children. So currently I would have to say that men and women's roles in television are shifting. I do however find it disturbing that the women have to be drop dead gorgeous and the guys can be the most normal, average looking people ever. As far as teachers having an effect on career choice I don't think they are that powerful. Maybe a close college professor, but honestly I don't think high school teachers are the influential. At least not the teacher I went to school with.

While reading the other comments I was reminded of drama that went on during my high school years. One of our math teachers was promoted to assistant principal and became power hungry and all the power went right to his head. Pretty much if you wore shorts to school they were either too short (if you were a girl) or too long (if you were a boy) why the difference? The shorts should have simply been too short or too long for either gender. It never went the other way...we all wondered what length of shorts we were supposed to wear.

power of gender roles

#529 On May 25, 2006 9:49pm dmb50 said,
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Perhaps the physical strength of men over women in some areas is what started the gender construction and ranking. THe fact the in early civilization pregnant women needed help and suport for survival. THis gave men the idea that they were some how more important so they gave themselves a higher ranking than women. Obviously, men and women were ment to work in teams but somehow this was lost along the way and it became men working above women.
From an early age boys and girls are treated very differntly and expected to like things that little boys or girls are supposed to like respectively. But why can't boys play with dolls or girls play with guns? It almost seems as though these toys are made to put girls in their "place"as caregivers and "boys"in their place as masters. THese thoughts are so engrained in children that they often ridicule and harrass others throught their school careers becasue they have been brainwashed by the current standerd of gender roles. Instead of being free to explore what ever makes them happy, children are encouraged only to find happiness in what is appropriate for their gender. While parents may want their children to be truely happy, they refuse to do anything about changing gender roles because they do not want their child to be ridiculed, which will inevitably happen.
Mainstream social gender roles make childrens'lives miserable so then children in turn spend the rest of their lives making each others'live miserable. How can this be any good??
The media simly encourages the "norms"by portraying them on every tv show. The house wife, the hardworking father, the clueless teenage girl, and the horny mid-puberty boy. These characters are staples. BOys are involved in sports while girls are stressing over boys and mom is loading the mini van. Gender roles on tv closely follow gender roles of society, almost always. And only recently has it been realized that woman can consume things other than makeup and cleaning products. Till recently, these are the most common products advertised to women, but as some gender roles change, the world begins to change as well. Wow...the power of gender and the roll it plays in so many aspects of society is amazing.

In the first discussion for

#526 On May 25, 2006 8:57pm failurebydesign said,
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In the first discussion for week four I commented on the Baby X situation. I think that there are plenty of options out there for nongendered toys (paints, toy instruments, etc) but dont be afraid to buy children toys that arent of "their gender." So what if your daughter plays with blocks, one day she may be a terrific architect. And if your son plays with a kitchen set? He could be a gourmet chef one day. Dont limit your children because of your own fears of what our gender roles imply. We can only move past this if we are willing to break the mold. And we can break that mold in two ways. First we can change personally. Lead by example. Dont be afraid to do things differently, things that you like that are looked down upon. Why do we justify ourselves to society? Look at it! Its a mess! But because of insecurity, we fall into the patterns. I still think we need to try, try hard to really be yourself. And if your a boy and you feel the need to grunt and burp and lift weights or something else "manly" and thats what you LIKE to do, great. Just enjoy it, but dont impose it on others. Same for women, if you want to be Suzie homemaker or if you want to be the Superwoman ideal that is brought up, awesome. Again, lets not force our children into these roles. Second way to change the system. OPTIONS. Give them to your children. Dont push them in one way or another. Be there for guidance, when they like something encourage it (in a healthy way, with moderation). IF/when they change their minds, great! Let them explore something new. THey will fill their OWN shoes, not society's idea of what they should be.

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#544 On May 26, 2006 7:26am dmb50 said,
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I totally agree that children should not be pushed into one ideal of society or another for any reason. ANd i think often times partens start out with the best intentions, trying to let their children make their own desicions, but then, no matter how hard any partent tries, the child must leave the home and function among other kids. THis is where we have a problem. IT seems that everyone in the world needs to put other people into neat little packages that they can understand. KIds are brought up this way so they long for the same thing. Sadly, this means that no matter what, unlesss a drastic change is made, protecting your children from gender constructions is almost imposible. THe fact that your children could be made fun of is enough to force any partent to gender their child, just to make their life "easier". IT is such a shame that kids can not be allowed to reach their full potential because society is too busy telling them who to be instead of loving them for who they are.

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#507 On May 25, 2006 5:09pm marsromance said,
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Gender ranking is prevalent because people feel the need to categorize making life easier. In regards to where these genders and ranks come into play is from the society itself. Society defines the roles and acceptable behaviors and attitudes for “men” and “women” to have. By defining the roles a society is then able to create “them” and “us” and further help to maintain an understandable relationship between people. When either sex displays the wrong gender they are looked down upon and picked on because their visual sex disagrees with their gender perception. This fact strongly shows that society focuses on the outward appearance of things and that is how they are classified. Society does not want to go deeper and understand something that may contradict their belief systems. By avoiding dissonance people make themselves happy, and rather than a society trying to change itself and would rather rely on assigning gender and ignoring the variables.

gender solcialization

#500 On May 25, 2006 1:29pm npv101 said,
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I think that things have definately improved at times throughout the years concerning what is masculine and feminine. However, i also believe that there is still a lot of room for improvement. In addition, i believe that some of the improvements have been including girls in shop classes and including boys in home economics classes. But, i think both of those classes were wastes of time in middle school and high school. Depsite these changes though, i still believe that you can see the unequality in gym classes. I admit that some gym classes were held coed but the large majority of them were single sex. Often times at my high school the boys would play footbal and the girls would "jazzercise". I don't think that was too fair.

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#490 On May 25, 2006 8:51am miniCooper said,
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I remember back in high school I hated gym class - most girls did. We were separated from the guys and while they played football the girls walked around the track. Sometimes this was okay if you had a friend and could just walk and talk with them, but were we really getting the exercise that we needed? Even our female girl coach was content with letting us walk around for the entire time. That was until one coach decided we needed to know something about football and took the girls and tried to teach us how the game was played. It seemed silly at the time, but at least he was giving us the chance to decide for ourselves whether or not we wanted to play the game. The few females in the class that were very athletic also hated gym class since they were bored. Would it be such a terrible thing for guys and girls to have gym class together? Maybe it'd be great for guys and girls to learn to play and work as a team. If they strip the idea that guys play football and girls walk around and give the girls a chance to play - will they rise to the occassion? I think gym class is a good example of where the stereotypes of gender are enforced.

Opposite...

#497 On May 25, 2006 11:43am soozpsu08 said,
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I had the opposite experience. In my high school, we had co-ed gym classes. The problem was, the boys all played really rough. It wasn't enjoyable for us at all, getting balls pegged at us and such. Many of the girls in my class would just hang back and not really take part in whatever we were doing, they would kind of loiter around the field or the gym. Needless to say, they were missing out on the whole 'participation' aspect of our grade.

I don't know if they acted that way because they felt judged by the boys or because they didn't want to get hurt by them, or even because they had no interest in the game, but whatever the reason, I would have to say that the dynamic of the classes was never good. It didn't really work out. I'd sooner have separate gym classes. I know that sounds sexist, almost like saying girls can't play aggressively, but in my high school, they just didnt. They didn't want to mess up their hair and their makeup by sweating. If a girl was very active in the game in gym class, she was labeled 'weird' by those girls who never participated. It was pretty ridiculous.

the older I get ...

#469 On May 24, 2006 2:59pm Garden Goddess said,
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The older I get, the more gender neutral gifts I find myself buying to celebrate the birth of a child.

Recently, I bought a set of windchimes as a baby gift. Unusual, you might think, yes, but wind chimes are so soothing. They are also a gift that continues to give -- to the parents on the night when the baby is colicky and can't get to sleep, to the small child as the chimes catch the merest whisper of a breeze on a summer evening, and to the neighbors and passers by on the street. Isn't it an African proverb that says, "It takes an entire village to raise a child?" Are we as a culture not taking our part in the life of the child being born? It's not conscious, but we need to evaluate even the unconscious things we do and begin to question WHY we do them.

I've also purchased a fabric growth chart to be hung in the young person's room so their development can be a tangible presence in their lives.

Marketing of baby gifts by manufacturers influences what we buy for boys and girls. Who can resist some of the gorgeous and unique gifts we see that are gender specific.

However, we can't let the marketers do our thinking for us. If more gender neutral gifts are purchased, will the supply of gender neutral gifts increase? Maybe ...

What are your thoughts?

my thoughts

#485 On May 24, 2006 11:36pm Julebug said,
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Honestly, I don't think that dressing a baby boy in blue has any effect on him or his social development. Children don't have any memory until they are about 3 or something. We are dressing the babies in gender specific colors for ourselves and those around us.

This issue seems to not be so serious these days, as more men are wearing so-called "girl" colors: pink, purple, etc. Just look at any frat guy on a Saturday night. Chances are he's wearing some sort of pastel polo shirt with the collar popped.

My thoughts

#467 On May 24, 2006 2:29pm EternalMelody said,
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I am not 100% where these stereotypes come from. Let me rephrase, I do not know all the places that these stereotypes come from. Yes, I think by surrounding a child with a baby girl with all pink things or "girlie" things, she will be influenced. Yet I also feel a child is influenced on the way they are raised (spoken to, taught about life, how their parents are available to their needs) which is a big indication of a lot of things. Depending on what you mean by "schools," I think the people inside of these schools play a role in gender stereotyping. With all the cliques that schools have, a lot of young people are bond to become influenced by them. Affects that come from this are low self esteem, the need to be perfect according to your gender, and basically - misery if you cannot fit the mold of your gender. No, I can't predict the future with all of your gender questions, but I do say that I have hope. The hope that a boy could be a cheerleader without being ridiculed helps me see that things can change if people are fearless enough to let them.

schools

#473 On May 24, 2006 5:19pm hnw5000 said,
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To clarify, my questions about schools was mostly meant to address how student/teacher relationships encourage gender stereotyping. Studies show that teachers, whether male or female, treat students of different sexes unequally. Also, most teachers have little or no training in gender equity. I feel that without teachers being aware of gender stereotypes and what they can do to encourage gender equity, it is no wonder that schools often enforce gender stereotypes rather than challenge them. Perhaps at times it is appropriate to treat girls and boys differently, perhaps not. How have you seen girls and boys treated differently during your education? Or have they been treated the same? Should they be treated the same? How much of an influence do teachers have on a student's views or choice of career path?

MY EXPERIENCES

#520 On May 25, 2006 7:18pm soozpsu08 said,
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Throughout my schooling experience, I have never seen teachers treat kids differently based on whether they were male or female. I have heard the how a lot of teachers will try to dissuade females from going into math and science careers, but I've never actually known anyone who has done this or has had this happen to them.

Have any of you had an experience different from mine? I'm interested in knowing, considering that I'm going to be a teacher :)

It is hard for me to comment

#535 On May 25, 2006 10:33pm mrcpsu said,
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It is hard for me to comment on this topic regarding high school years. I went to an all boys catholic high school where we all seemed equally worthless. The teachers made less money at our school than public schools, but took the positions because they loved teaching. My memory goes as far back as middle school, but like every other middle schoolers, I was more concentrated on being "cool" and fitting in. I didnt really take good notice on gender differences.

Work experience

#530 On May 25, 2006 9:57pm Garden Goddess said,
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While I've never had an instructor try to dissuade me from a career or a subject choice, I've personally seen and experienced it in the workplace.

For many years, I worked in the banking industry. Men were, and still are, for the most part, the managerial tier in the industry. Women are making in-roads, but for many years, women were in teller and clerical/customer service positions. The pay scale was totally inverted and the work load was inverted in the opposite direction.

Though I don't like to admit it, I've seen similar situations in my more recent work experience. This is one of the primary reasons to really research where you find employment. Ask questions, ask for references ... make sure that you are interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you ...

Luckily, I work in an environment that I never considered feminist before this class. The place I work is pro-employee. Everyone is encouraged to grow, develop, and learn, not just men or women, or those of color, or ...

Does any of that make sense to you?

gender bias?

#486 On May 24, 2006 11:42pm lyralin1986 said,
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I have to say that through elementary school, junior high, and high school, I never felt the stereotyping of boys vs. girls. I never felt that my teachers were more lenient or tough or told any of my classmates or me that we couldn't be or do whatever we dreamed of simply based on our gender. It might be that I just never noticed it, I can't say. I was always a hard worker, I did my work, and I did it to the best of my ability, I received good grades, and I was never ashamed of the work I did. However, this past year, fall semester, my second year at Penn State, I felt for the first time in my life that a teacher may be grading those in my class unfairly, based on their genders. I just recently switched my major from architecture to comparative literature and law school(eventually). However, while I decided to switch because I realized that architecture was not for me, and I am very happy now that I no longer in architecture, the thought to switch, was not initially put in my mind by myself. One of my architecture studio professors my fall semester, after I put in a full semester of hard work, gave me a failing grade, and he told me that it was because I had no "conceptual skills, no drawing skills, and no work ethic". Now I could have handled the first two, as while I may think I possess those skills, it may be the personal opinion of some people that I don't, the first two comments can be rather subjective. However, I happen to believe that I am a very hard worker, and it really upset me when I worked 124 hours out of 144 hours, in one week, i was up and working on my project in studio(and no, that is not an exaggeration), and yet I was told that I wasn't working hard enough, even though I was in studio working longer than most, if not all, of my male classmates. This same teacher also told other female classmates of mine that they would never be good, successful architects, unless they learned to copy other architects works exactly, and the architects that he mentioned for them to imitate, were ALL men. I think that in the case of encouraging students to excel, all students should be treated equal and it should not matter what gender they are. This teacher who told me that I wasn't working hard enough, and told the other girls in my class they needed to imitate others works and gave them grades either failing or as close to failing as he could, was giving the boys in my class A's, even though many of them did half the work that I did. I think that teachers really do have a big impact on the career choices we make in our lives, when they tell us that we're not good enough, whether it be true or not, it severely hurts our self esteem. While for me I feel that my career change is entirely to the better, telling anyone that they are awful at something is the wrong way to handle it.

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#463 On May 24, 2006 1:36pm soozpsu08 said,
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Firstly, I'd like to just mention that in recent years, there has been a step taken in the right direction in the issue of buying gender neutral baby gifts. Yellows and greens have become much more popular colors to purchase for babies, because they are very neutral. A boy or girl could wear yellow or green, no questions asked. (The only question asked might be whether the child is a boy or girl, because those colors could be worn by either sex.)

In response to the statement about how companies have recently been creating more ads that target women, I think that this is the perfect use of a stereotype in action. Women are viewed as the ones who do the shopping and housework for the family, so it would make sense that more ads would be targeted towards them. They are the ones who will need to be convinced to buy a product. I also think that this has to do with the fact that women have become more materialistic over the years. I don't mean this as a stereotype, and I certainly know this doesn't apply to all women, but it does apply to some. With all the horrible things going on in the world today, war, famine, natural disasters, etc, everyone is still looking out for themselves. This applies to men, too.

It's weird to think that

#492 On May 25, 2006 10:00am mrcpsu said,
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It's weird to think that many of these gender differences occur in elemantary schools and they go unoticed. I remember in elementary school, whether it was gym class, art class, recess, or even in the cafeteria, there was a fine line between boys activities and girls activities. Boys were really insistent from seperating themselves from the girls activities and vice versa. One specific instance comes to mind when our 4th grade class was having a can drive for the Boston Community Christmas. In class, the girls were responsable for coloring in the signs and posterboards for advertisements around the schools. The boys were responsalbe for making the big boxes that we would put around town at the grocery stores, town hall, etc. One of the boys in my grade was very creative and wanted to help with the poster design and our teacher flat out rejected the idea, because she insisted that girls were more creative, better at coloring, and werent capable of setting up the boxes. Throughout all the hidden curriculum that was in my elemantary school, none of which I noticed until now, the can drive is still talked about today amongst friends. It's possible that teachers years ago were taught only to be one dimensional, and not taught how to occomodate none traditional actions, like boys baking and coloring. Perhaps the teacher was looking out for the student's best interest in regards to their reputation amongst classmates. Maybe the teacher feared that the boy s would be ridiculed if they decided to bake and color. However, these trends really only seemed to happen in classrooms with tenured senior citizen teachers. The younger, more open-minded teachers of today are more accepting of girls and boys wanting to do the same things. I think it all boils down to the schools administration.